Every four turns a wrath is no joke, especially when you consider that her tokens stay ex post facto and that emblem will seal out games with rapidity, assuming you can ever get it off...
4.5/5 Stars
Posted By:
Hunter06
(9/17/2013 2:10:48 PM)
Doaj, you're comparing her to two of the most powerful planeswalkers ever printed. Both Karn and Bolas pretty much win a game single-handedly. New Elspeth, like the new Garruk, represents a new kind of 'walker. Her abilities provide very real, tangible advantage that require an answer, but not as immediately as Jace, the Mindsculptor (an even more powerful 'Walker than Bolas or Karn) or even Gideon Jura (less powerful, but definitely stronger than most of the other walkers printed around the same time or since). I think Wizards is seeking to balance out the planeswalker permanent type, similar to how they balanced out hexproof. Plus, the format is definitely going to slow down, so six mana may suddenly not become an issue even for a midrange-y token swarm deck.
Posted By:
Avensai
(9/17/2013 7:22:24 PM)
Guys... I almost feel bad for pointing this out because it is irreversable... but
Elspeth has Justin Biebers face.
Posted By:
Boroski
(2/1/2014 1:00:53 PM)
Her +1 is mortifying in swarm decks but is it worth the cost compared to the other Elspeths?
@ Doaj Bolas is very hard to cast because of his colors and in order for Karn to be useful you NEED his ultimate, Elspeth is a very nicecard for the semi-causal crowd and unlike the other twoshe is decently powered and fair.
Posted By:
master_biomancer
(9/17/2013 3:37:52 PM)
I think people are forgetting the 6cmc mana cost. Don't get me wrong, she's not a bad card. But expensive walkers have to have very playable + abilities to be of any use. She still doesn't compete, though, with the likes of Karn Liberated or Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker. Will she see play in standard? I don't think she will.
Posted By:
Doaj
(9/17/2013 3:29:24 PM)
I like to think of this as "Captain of the Watch" meets "Elspeth, Knight-Errant"
CMC says a lot about a creature's or a Planeswalker's "size", to Vorthos. Sure, everyone else knows that it's the little number in the lower-right corner that **actually** determines "size", but Vorthos cares about CMC for non-Engineered Explosives reasons!
2:
Tibalt CMC is hard to evaluate just what that means. *Ignited* on Innistrad, a plane of devils and horrors, one would think he'd be more imposing? He definitely feels like he's got *potential*, flavor wise, so his low CMC seems to go with Domri Rade's to show how young he is. He has the vitality but also the lack of experience of youth. Story Wise I hope his character reappears as a 5-cost Walker, after he's been taught a few important lessons about being too much of a yuppy by Sorin, Lord of Innistrad :)
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Johnny tips... (see all)
Posted By:
DarthParallax
(9/19/2013 8:07:33 AM)
Theros needs a hero. But Theros' hero needs to be a little cheaper.
She is really solid though, and her middle ability will make room nicely for white swarm decks. But that mana cost still gets me down.
Posted By:
Totema
(9/18/2013 10:39:29 PM)
She's good, but not THAT good. Sure, I won every game at the pre-release whenever I could get her out. But by the end of the day I traded her off for an Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver. Why? Because Ashiok is awesome, and Elspeth is incredibly expensive. Every game at the pre-release that I got her out, it was only because I had enough mana, and I was winning anyway. Most games I had her in my hand and she did nothing but take up space, becasue she's so expensive mana wise.
Posted By:
TheMentalProdigy
(9/24/2013 7:08:36 PM)
Miley Cyrus, Sun's Champion
Posted By:
Kei314
(10/3/2013 1:13:41 AM)
Am I the only one who feels like this card is... underwhelming?
Sure, the +1 is awesome, but the other two abilities feel kind of meh, and she's pretty highly costed. Maybe Standard will prove me wrong, but as of now, I feel like this is one of the weakest Planeswalkers ever printed.
Xenagos, on the other hand...
Posted By:
TheWallinator74
(9/18/2013 10:22:44 AM)