I hear people say that Tarmogoyf is overrated because he doesn't do anything. This is absolutely not true. Tarmogoyf does one very, very good thing.
He makes the opponent dead for minimum investment.
Comparing him to Bob is unfair. Comparing him even to Ooze is silly. All three of these cards are incredibly useful, and all three are wanted for completely different reasons.
Posted By:
a-slice-of-cake
(5/18/2012 9:51:58 AM)
It's not THAT great. It combo's well with ALOT of other spells. No protection and minor cast. On my T3 I will cast Threads of Disloyalty . Thanks.
Posted By:
Nevermoore
(5/21/2012 7:09:46 AM)
It's not $100 because it's the best card ever. Price has next to nothing to do with how good something is. USAGE IS EVERYTHING, PEOPLE. If every Legacy/Modern deck that ran them only runs one instead of fours, this card would probably be somewhere in the $12-20 range, lower if it was reprinted. Baneslayer Angel is just as good as it was a year and a half ago, but it's dropped $45 since then. Does that mean that it's only 10% as good as it was then? No. It's still ridiculous and annoying, it's just not seeing any play, really. Conversely, look at Sword of War and Peace. It WAS $12, and it shot up to almost $50. That doesn't mean it got REALLY good, it's still mediocre and Sword of Feast and Famine is still better by far, Standard just loves it a LOT right now, and when it rotates out in October, it'll drop to $10 or so again.
The point is, when nearly EVERY Legacy AND Modern deck plays something if it's in the colors of the... (see all)
Posted By:
WarioMan
(5/22/2012 4:55:09 PM)
Oh Goyf....
Posted By:
Suddsy12
(6/2/2012 1:30:49 PM)
@CorkBulb
This guy isn't replacing a huge green creature in that type of deck. Green doesn't really stand a chance in any serious tournament as it is.
When you've got your opponents top decking, with a hand full of counters and kill spells or whatever other terrible thing a legacy/vintage/whatever deck has in it, a 5/6 or 6/7 two drop that keeps mana open is absolutely nuts.
Or, you're running graveyard shenanigans. A good deck can have a dozen cards in its graveyard by like turn 3. And even more than that even sooner is entirely possible.
Any high end deck is also always going to have a land in one of the graveyards. There is almost no way neither person wont have a fetch land, a wasteland, a strip mine, a ghost quarter or any other number of good stuff.
Basically, in most control match ups, splash some green with dual lands and throw in a Goyf, you wont be disappointed. Even though he's losing some of his steeze to ... (see all)
Posted By:
SuicidalTendancies
(7/21/2012 5:13:07 AM)
@CorkBulb I see you've never played against him. Decks using him have ways of easily getting different types of cards in the graveyard, for example, the mentioned fetchlands and Nameless Inversion. That's adding Land and Tribal to your list, for a 6/7 for 2. The former costs no effort to put into a deck, and the latter is good removal anyway. There's also self-milling, which will pump him up in no time flat. Just go on MWS (Magic Workstation) and play Modern, then come back and edit your comment with your results. If you genuinely don't have a problem with him because of something you're doing, that's fine too, I'd like to hear about it :P. This is one of my least favorite cards in the game.
Posted By:
Bobth
(8/17/2012 9:51:59 AM)
wow now scavenging ooze is the legacy 2 drop of choice. It hoses this. Dies to Duh! But this is still insane!
T2 5/6es are good
Posted By:
Justin133Nivmizzet1
(8/24/2012 10:05:31 AM)
Ach, Hans, run - it's powercreep!
Posted By:
Kirbster
(11/1/2012 9:03:53 AM)
@Kidrik Sigarda, two Privileged Positions, Melira, Sylvok Outcast and Avacyn, angel of hope.
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I'm sorry, what was your argument again?
Posted By:
atemu1234
(11/17/2012 4:33:15 PM)