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Conflux FAQ: Protection from Everything
"Protection from everything" means the following:
* Progenitus can't be blocked.
* Progenitus can't be enchanted or equipped.
* Progenitus can't be the target of spells or abilities.
* All damage that would be dealt to Progenitus is prevented.
Progenitus can still be affected by effects that don't target it or deal damage to it (such as Wrath of God).
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So it's just like "Protection of all colors". This "everything" made quite a mess, and confused the magic community... well at least it do the trick and made it quite expensive on market.
Like Oleander said "If Progenitus is not immunne to all spells, that defeats the purpose of him being an awe-inspiring mythic rare."
I second that
Posted By:
Humakt
(3/21/2009 11:53:22 PM)
I just bought this guy online for 10 bucks, including shipping and handling. I am SO pumped to team him up with Knight of New Alara. A 15/15 with protection from everything. That is pretty sick. The art work is amazing, and if you also use Tromp of the Domains and Knight of New Alara he can be a 20/20, pretty awesome. And yes, he can be killed by Damnation or Wrath of God, but remember those cards also kill all other creatures. And he doesn't die, whip out a Diabolic or Demonic tutor, play him again and you are the only one with a creature, and he is a 10/10. AWESOME
and now, Reasios Progenitus is better.
1. Progenitus is unblockable.
2. Progenitus can't be killed by spells that remove him from the game (Unless it is a global effect)
3. Progenitus can't be taken control of by another player
4. Progenitus can be boosted using knight of new alara, to a whopping 15/15
Reasons Darksteel is better
1. Darksteel can be boosted
2. Darksteel can withstand the wrath of god
3, With the right car... (see all)
Posted By:
LukeMan
(3/9/2010 10:02:57 AM)
Cool art, cool creature, ridiculous ability and a million ways to get rid of it nevertheless.
Quite Timmylicious, though. You DONT want to see this on the table without you having one of those aforementioned ways to kill it..
Posted By:
FreakyM
(2/1/2009 5:43:53 AM)
Let me see, it might lose to dark steel colossus, sort of, but there are things that can beat it but not Progenitus, most notably unmake, control magic, and time ebb.
At any rate, I could go over kill strategies for both of these cards but I'm not in the mood.
at any rate:
massive color weight and manna cost: -** */2
Protection from everything: +***
other trick that I don't really care about: +*/2
Final rating: ****
Posted By:
Zoah
(1/6/2010 6:05:53 PM)
Ach, Hans Run! It's KING GHIDORA!
but seriously, if this were 'just' a matter of of getting to 10 mana and drawing it and having all 5 colors open, playing 'straight' (relying on some gay-ass heart of the cards to magically make it happen for you) then it would still be a 3-star card because 'Protection from Everything' kind of... wow. on a 10/10!
biggest mistake ever: he should have had reach and extra blocking, but whatevs.
in the real world, we have access to Fauna Shaman, Sylvan Wish, Elvsih Piper, Dramatic Entrance, heck the guy even has his own Keeper of Progenitus. oh, and Prismatic Omen.
in short, a very simple elf deck can combo this guy out any day of the week you want. it might be possible to hardcast it on turn 2 with Vintage tech, though at that point I would just Dark Ritual x2, Entomb and Living Death it. and even Entomb + Living Death might not be the 'best' thing you can do...there is unlikely to ever be a more powerful creature in the game, although some of them ar... (see all)
Posted By:
DarthParallax
(8/11/2011 2:18:32 PM)
you call it bueaty that he never hits the graveyard? omg another offense to black, first darksteel colossus and now this, that ruling was meant to make sure black users can't use that creature, because they are still stuck on way way back when black spells >>> everything else and the crybabies had to make virtually almost all the current black spells and creatures outclassed by every other color. Him not hitting the graveyard means he is impossible to re-animate on any of the first 3 turns. ANd they let blue be able to summon darksteel colossus within the 2nd turn too
Posted By:
Nnoitra
(7/12/2009 4:19:10 PM)
I have this card. It was the first legendary I ever got. (Ironically from the first pack I ever bought. lol).
I'll admit, he's over powered to an extent, but I mean, you got several ways to defeat it. Counter it before it comeso n the field, use a card that hits multiple creatures, or get rid of it before it even hits the ground (While it's still in the hand.) As for the mana cost. Well, it's not that bad if you build a deck that built around gathering mana. I built a multicolored deck that pulls mana out quickly. I put in a lot of big creatures including progenitis and never had a problem with getting him on the field. The only down fall to this card is that he doen't have vigilance. If he had vigilance, he would still be OP but there are easy ways around that. Send an army of 1/1 creatures to deal X damage, yeah you lose a creature, but, you still deal x-1 damage. Basically, just send out more monsters. Progenitis can't block but one of them.
Posted By:
Learvok
(3/9/2010 6:59:05 AM)
just terror it...
Posted By:
cullen31
(1/10/2011 2:46:30 PM)
If you play it for something cheaper than its mana cost (Dramatic Entrace, etc) it's good.
But it can still be wrathed.
WAIT. EDIT.
Everything.
Doesn't everything include "Protection from Wrath of God"?
I'm getting somewhere here...
Posted By:
InfernoTowel
(6/12/2009 8:07:07 PM)
having protection means protection from color too so it cant be affected by wrath of god right?
Posted By:
phoenixcobra27
(8/3/2009 4:04:59 PM)