I don't think there's been a all-but-token nuke since Hour of Reckoning
And Jesus *** Christ people. Elspeth is not broken. The game is not ending. The world is still turning just fine.
Nearly every single gatherer discussion degrades into how this is so broken or how that sucks because it dies to removal.
Well guess what: Elspeth, and every other planeswalker, can do some pretty broken things. AND, and, they are also vulnerable to removal! IMAGINE THAT! That Wizards makes janky cards with answers to them. Mind has been blown.
Is she too expensive for cardboard? Obviously not if she sells at that price.
Can't afford her for your casual deck? Then quit trying to make decks around cards you can't get! Its a casual deck to begin with, use proxies.
The R/G Splintered Galvanizer deck is far more broken, can win on turn four, and can be made effectively for about 30 to 40 bucks. With most of its cost coming from dual lands. It also doesn'... (see all)
Posted By:
Bandswithother
(11/17/2010 5:26:09 AM)
She's not overpriced. I got mine today for 3.99 + sales tax. You know...the old fashioned way. So you can't find it on eBay for less than an arm and a leg? I fail to see how WotC is responsible. Blame the secondary market if you want to blame something.
On to the card itself, I was absolutely thrilled when I cracked it open only to later realize that she really wouldn't be that much help in my casual circle against my friend's Dragon deck since all of Sarkhan's thugs are...in fact...tokens. Crap. Oh well. At least I get to nuke Sarkhan himself.
In limited the life gain sort of fizzles against infect, and the tokens are likely to get run over fairly quickly by the same ability. While her ultimate is wiping out everything that could potentially pump them (unless you have each of them equipped with Darksteel Axe). I'm thinking about just relying on the first two abilities to clog up the board (using the first one primarily just to put more loyalty counters on her) and the f... (see all)
Posted By:
PhyrexianAdvocate
(11/26/2010 5:32:33 PM)
Why don't they make a Planeswalker you don't have to sacrifice your first born to get?
Posted By:
JanusAurelius
(10/13/2010 11:54:04 AM)
compared to other cards, all Planeswalkers should get 4.5/5. the remaining .5 goes to cards from ye-olde-stupide--broekn-commbo-dayes with Black Lotus & Co.
But even among Planeswalkers, Elspeth is kind of a Viking Goddess. No reason not to rate for 5, really, except out of deference to history.
Personally, I want to see a Duel Decks: Elspeth Tirel VS Sorin Markov.
I feel they would not get along, Elspeth would get all self-righteous Buffy the Vampire Slayer on Sorin's undead butt. They both have giant swords, and we'd love to see them hack at each other :)
Of course, I'd root for Sorin, but I'd enjoy another Elspeth Duel Decks product as well. The last Elspeth deck felt a bit...lacking, somehow.
Posted By:
DarthParallax
(2/2/2012 4:16:56 PM)
Obviously someone with a low IQ can't stand others emphasize the devastating power Elspeth has.
Consider you can have Venser and her dish out a '3 soldier tokens generation per turn'. To the degenerates who can't apprecite people's good comments, ready? Alright, here it is:
T1: Elspeth Tirel generate 3 soldiers, Venser phase her out, she comes back with 4 counters at end of turn. Then you repeat the process in the next few turns.
And to your surpirse, she continue to bring more reinforcements while Venser's loyalty grows. Ultimately this may give you the option to swarm your enemy with Venser's Unblockable power and Elspeth's soldiers. Or shift Venser himself out with his first ability and let Elspeth release her wrath, unaffecting her soldiers (any creature tokens) and with Venser comeback at EOT safe and sound.
And of course, you may whine as usual as they may get bolted before they can attempt to do this, if so, you're pretty pathetic for a blue player who can't counter, o... (see all)
Posted By:
SorianSadaskan
(9/25/2010 3:45:43 PM)
Shes awesome. A Day ofJudgement style effect that leaves her alive with a loyalty counter is great. If her cost was 4, she'd be as broken as Garruk.
Posted By:
NecroticNobody
(9/23/2010 5:40:19 PM)
Letting her live with one token seems like a mistake. :\ She starts out of bolt range (Unlike Jace and Garruk), and can unleash her ultimate in one turn which is a feat only matched by Garruk - but it kills him and isn't nearly as powerful...
Posted By:
CeremonialBathory
(9/24/2010 12:46:27 AM)
Combos with life totals, over populated boards and Mentor of the Meek.
Posted By:
TheGoodDoctor20
(10/18/2011 11:07:11 PM)
What a beauty.
Posted By:
StoicChampion
(9/23/2010 4:37:19 PM)
So much for Wizards' outlandish claims that Mythic rares wouldn't be game ending cards that would become staples in every deck of their color. First Baneslayer, and now Elspeth. The game is very quickly turning into "My money is better than your deck," especially with cards like this being printed every new set.
Posted By:
Oleander
(10/2/2010 5:59:46 PM)