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Mike-C, I fail to see how Venser (I'm assuming you're talking about the planeswalker) can do anything useful with this, other than making you pay the echo cost every turn. You play this, and can only use Venser's ability any time you can play a sorcery. So even if you bounced it, it would come back in, and on your next turn, you'd STILL have to pay the upkeep cost. Unless you plan on playing it, tapping, bouncing, then tapping again, then sac'ing next turn, which to me seems like a huge waste of mana.

Thick-skinned Goblin or Eon Hub would be great for cards like this. I've actually made a deck that involves lots of cheap cards with echo, and not having to pay their costs. Definitely not a competitive deck, but it's fun none the less.

I also use this card mostly in EDH. 12 over 2 turns isn't all that bad in this format, especially in the right deck. Even without Tolarian Academy in the format, it's not unusual for a good deck to have 8+ mana on turn 3 or 4.
Posted By: endersblade (10/25/2011 10:35:47 AM)
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Yet another basketball for Venser to play with.

@endersblade- ahh. Right you are. I stand corrected.
Posted By: Mike-C (1/18/2012 6:16:13 PM)
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Compare with Staff of Nin. This will still net +1 card if they destroy it right away, the staff will only net 1 damage. And this will also draw 2 cards by the time the staff gets 1. Oh and untap effects.

All for the low-low price of 12 mana over 2 turns.
Posted By: TheWrathofShane (11/7/2013 4:17:55 AM)
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