The founder of an archetype. Obviously it's not the powerhouse it once was, but it's still perfectly playable and if anything, less annoying in the wake of things like Grindstone and Glimpse the Unthinkable. It generally raises a smile when activated.
Posted By:
stygimoloch
(2/15/2009 4:01:41 PM)
@sonorhC - It seems you need a lesson in mill, as you would state: "for noobs":
Win by turn 3: Grindstone + Painter's Servant = entire library gone to graveyard due to infinite-loop mill. Game over unless you have a Platinum Angel in play.
Win by turn 5: Drowner of Secrets + Stonybrook Schoolmaster + Intruder Alarm = infi-loop mill, entire library is gone, plus an army of 1/1 merfolk equal to the size of the library that was milled.
Mill is far more "relevant" than the four points you made. By no means am I saying mill is foolproof, but it can be a very relevant way to win.
Furthermore, your "For comparison" section is a very poor comparison. A card put on the bottom of the library is not even close to "just as gone" as a card put into the graveyard. A card put on the bottom of the library can be readily available after a single shuffle. A mill deck including Leyline o... (see all)
Posted By:
jilting_joker
(12/4/2011 12:08:17 AM)
Flavour text: Millstone slowly, endlessly grinding, driving wizards to madness. Art: Millstone pinwheeling down a hill like school just finished for the Summer. Whee!
Posted By:
infamado
(4/15/2012 12:00:46 PM)
good card, i like.
Posted By:
iNathan
(7/25/2010 9:53:56 PM)
@Duskdale_Wurm - It was doing that long before Alara...Ice Manipulator, Twiddle, Burst of Energy, Elder Druid, Emerald Charm; you get the idea.
Posted By:
Alsebra
(6/23/2011 12:03:59 AM)
I hope Jace gets run over by one of these... SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT!!!
Posted By:
Gcrudaplaneswalker
(10/3/2012 9:19:03 PM)
@jilting_joker I feel like you misunderstand sonorhC. I don't think he's stating that mill is not a viable strategy. I think he's pointing out how realistically milling 40-50 cards=dealing 20 points of damage, whereas some "noobs" will feel that even a little bit of mill, such as one or two cards a turn, is somehow impacting their opponent's options while dealing damage to their life total does not. Also, imo putting a card on the bottom of a player's library is way better than putting it in their graveyard. While yes, you can use a few specific cards to prevent them from getting the cards back from the graveyard, that's an extra card in your hand/deck that isn't always helping you and that is usually giving you hand disadvantage anyway when it is, which isn't that good. A single shuffle might put a card that is on the bottom of a player's library back on top, but not that often, and many players run more cards that interact with the graveyard than they run cards that can shuffle their... (see all)
Posted By:
EvilDarkVoid
(5/1/2013 6:00:20 PM)
Finally, finally coming back as an uncommon. This might just be a thing in M14 limited — not to the extent of Sands of Delirium, but it can fit into nearly any deck.
Posted By:
Continue
(7/5/2013 12:42:49 PM)
It can be milled off the deck with Millstone. It sucks.
Posted By:
Angry_Puppy
(4/12/2011 6:35:31 AM)
When is WotC going to finally make the keyword "mill"? Or they could at least give it a different keyword like they did with troll shroud/hexproof (although I bet more people would be unhappy with a different name). Even people that have never played this game are pushing for this!
Posted By:
danyo622
(6/28/2012 7:31:30 PM)