i dont think waiting 6 turns to look at say... 10 cards.. and get no card advantage is good
if you invest in card draw at this slot you would be surelly in a better spot
of course it has its uses however is not even close to worth a slot in a control deck
and other tipes really beg you to be faster and not necessarily to win but already get a strong board position for try to search something good.. a limited search by the way
Posted By:
Szentekkel
(9/8/2011 2:47:47 AM)
The worst shrine? After sitting two or three turns, this can easily dig six or more cards into your library, which can be great. Or, in combo, find pieces or counter backup and win outright.
easily beats the laughably slow black and green shrines, whose abilities are irrelevant by the time they come online.
Posted By:
metalevolence
(10/26/2011 1:41:38 AM)
With Blue Proliferate going right and enough spells cast, you can rearrange your entire deck and put a card in your hand.
I mean, let's consider you play it second turn like a bad control deck, but whatever. Third turn, you play your Thrummingbird. Now you have two counters on it. Opponent's turn, and perhaps you unsummon their creature they're swingin' at you with or something. Now you have three. Your turn, it's at four. You probably cast a spell, or sit on your counters, and swing with a Thrummingbird. That's five to six counters. By sixth turn, when you can play Inexorable Tide, you can have 10 counters on it by simply attacking with Thrummingbird and the upkeep. That doesn't even count blue spells you play, like Steady Progress or Tezzeret's Gambit, or upping it for casting Inexorable Tide.
POWERFUL little bugger.
Posted By:
DeathDark
(5/10/2011 3:10:31 PM)
I laugh at the people who think this is the worst Shrine. It's MILES ahead of the green and black ones. It's also seeing constructed play in the Splinter Twin deck.
Posted By:
YoshiOfADown
(8/14/2011 4:16:02 AM)
This card is...very underwhelming. The white one gets you a Myr army, the red one gives you a potentially massive lazor, the green one can be built around to get you a heap of mana right when you need it, and the black one used at the right time can pave the way for your bombs to go unmolested.
This one...lets you sift for a lot?
It's never bad to be able to pick and choose cards, but this only gets you one card. All the others can dramatically alter the board; this guy has a lot bigger chance of being a huge whiff.
The fire-and-forget potential of this card is alright (I can see a situation where in a Limited game, this came out early and sat there for most of the game, and towards the end right when you needed to draw that one specific answer you pop it and look at the top 18 cards of the library or something).
Overall, the worst shrine, and quite unimpressive.
Posted By:
Magnor_Criol
(5/9/2011 12:45:15 AM)
It's not as poor as Shrine of Limitless Power, but the ability isn't that impressive. I'm trying to think of a scenario where I would favor this over something like Preordain or Ponder. Well it's still probably great in limited to dig for bombs or answers.
Posted By:
Vinifera7
(5/28/2011 1:21:46 PM)
I don't like it.
An artifact that the turn you play it does absolutely nothing. And if it actually sits around for a dozen turns and you sac it, then it ain't even any card advantage, since you just replace the card you spent by drawing this piece of junk. It just improves card quality once and very slowly. Ugh...
Posted By:
majinara
(5/2/2011 10:50:39 AM)
The fact that you do not need to pay after casting it makes it a pretty useful blue search. All you have to do is keep it going, then you can get what you need amongst a lot of your top cards.
And at only 2 cost total, its pretty useful.
Posted By:
Mekh
(4/28/2011 2:15:19 PM)
In Limited and EDH, this card is such a bomb. There are so many goodies in this set, people are going to pass this thing up early in draft. Not to mention, if you played mono-blue too, you could get so many counters on this thing fast, plus proliferate cards, and search for that game winning card. This thing goes into any draft deck, no reason not to play one.
Posted By:
guitargamer79
(4/30/2011 1:07:40 PM)
This card is amazing in limited even if your not playing blue. 2 mana to search out an answer seems pretty good.
Posted By:
ninjaboy05
(5/8/2011 6:49:36 PM)