Lord of the Pit's single saving grace was that even if you could not feed him, he'd still be nice enough to punch your opponent in the face for 7 after he smashed you for 7 during your upkeep. Sadly, far too many "new Pitlords" tap down after you fail to pay the upkeep cost, which makes them depressingly easy to deal with. This demon with odd dietary restrictions is one example, Xathrid Demon is another, and even the old Yawgmoth's Demon all suffer from this problem.
Cards like this are never playable outside of Limited or fun decks, but at least let the controller have some fun smacking foes around even if he can't feed his demon and has to take damage from it. Losing to your own cards thanks to a well-placed removal spell is depressing.
Posted By:
Radagast
(2/7/2012 10:21:36 AM)
Purple people eater :3 well not exactly purple but indeed a people eater
Posted By:
LiquidDish
(2/12/2012 9:34:38 PM)
Can I sacrifice my little brother if I run out creatures on the board?
Posted By:
konokono
(3/21/2012 7:31:26 PM)
Why all the hate for a 2012 Lord of the Pit? Sure he's not that good, but he's still pretty cool.
I think you all are just angry because you wanted a free Vorapede at the prerelease, just like you got Wurmcoil.
Posted By:
shotoku64
(2/24/2012 3:00:39 PM)
How about "At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice a human. If you can't, transform Archdemon of Greed and it deals 9 damage to you."
I think the reception of this guy would just be a lot better this way, because human tokens aren't as readily made as Thrulls or Pests.
@Paleopaladin
Lord of the Pit's excuse is that he was the first one. Liege of the pit is actually quite strong since you can have him pounding in on turn 4 and can ignore the upkeep if he's your only creature. He's quite comparable to Exalted Angel in that respect. No, he's not the strongest creature ever, and you aren't coming out of a trade with Swords to Plowshares or the like with a mana advantage, but he's not going to become your opponent's win condition unless they play with shaky cards like Pacifism.
Archdemon of Greed can't say that. He refuses to work at all if you don't feed him Humans. That's quite a specific palate, and p... (see all)
Posted By:
Kryptnyt
(3/12/2012 12:27:16 PM)
@Paleopaladin: Well, I don't see how anybody can post a counterargument to you being sick of the demons you linked to, and these types of cards in general! If you don't like them, then you don't like them; there's really nothing anybody can say to make you personally feel better about Archdemon of Greed and its ilk.
You've touched on the card/tempo disadvantage that the Archdemon can put you at, but realize that this demon - and all of those demons - represent tempo ADVANTAGE. They're big scary creatures with big scary effects for lower-than-average CMCs (in the time they were printed, anyway). On the turn you choose to flip him, he's a 9/9 with evasion AND trample that, so far, has cost you + one human. If your opponent doesn't have any way of dealing with him, he/she will likely be flattened in a couple of swings, or a swing plus a Fling.
I think the punishment aspect of the "you can't feed me so I'll eat you" mechanic is a pretty traditional ... (see all)
Posted By:
Leshrac_Nightwalker
(3/7/2012 10:30:08 AM)
One of the potential combos someone could try is drop it, transform it, swing with it, then Switcheroo it with any of your opponent's creatures. After that, it's like a time bomb each of their upkeeps.
Posted By:
Crynocent
(3/3/2013 9:07:28 AM)
Human gives me wings...
Posted By:
Cyberium
(2/5/2012 9:43:38 PM)
Wizards thought about returning the demons to their old ways, preRune-Scarred Demon kind of thing, so they did!
I mean, all I see is flavour: it's a demon that feasts off humans. Nothing too special.
However, you can't play him in mono-black. It's nearly impossible. In drafts, you can only used 3 different cards: Chosen of Markov, Skirsdag Flayer, and Wakedancer. Not only that, but the flayer also needs human sacrifices to use his powers to their fullest.
If you were to go mono-black in standard, there is still only 12 black humans, and two are rare (Skirsdag High Priest and Royal Assassin). This means that the demon has to be teamed with another colour. However, since it's original cost needs 2 black mana, you are either restricted to two colours or need a little bit of luck to get those swamps.
It can easily be done, however, alongside white. White is th... (see all)
Posted By:
Ferlord
(2/5/2012 3:09:19 PM)
Strong and the drawback doesn't look too hard to maintain. BW tokens, or even BU has plenty of humans. Plus perfect Morbid enabler to run alongside Reaper of the Abyss.
Posted By:
OooShiny
(1/28/2012 12:28:13 PM)