I love how it illustrates a simple point to those who don't get Black Lotus: even when discarding your hand for it, three free mana is still insane.
Posted By:
scumbling1
(3/15/2011 7:28:52 AM)
Everything else awesome aside, this is a pretty spectacular way to cast Haakon...
Posted By:
Salient
(8/20/2011 8:29:06 PM)
"Yes, this is a bit weird."
The fact that the Oracle ruling breaks out of character for this card but not for cards like Chaos Orb and Shahrazad tells you all you need to know about it.
Posted By:
CuriousThing
(10/21/2011 3:06:21 PM)
This card is extremely popular in Storm decks such as Ad-Naseuam + Tendrils.
You need to use its effect when an ability is on the stack that allows you to draw more cards, such as Ad Naseuam. Then you get the mana and refill your hand.
Another great use for this card is with Yawgmoth's Will:
Swamp; Lion's Eye Diamond; Dark Ritual; Yawg Will. Then crack Diamond...pull it back with Will...use it again. Then reuse your dark ritual. 8 black mana floating turn 1 with a graveyard full of goodies you can play as though they were in your hand. Don't even need reanimator...
Posted By:
kitsunewarlock
(10/19/2009 2:16:33 PM)
One turn Goblin Charbelcher deck. I have done it. Amazing!!!
Posted By:
Mill_Master
(12/30/2009 11:34:52 PM)
some way to use it:
Auriok Salvagers+Pyrite Spellbomb. You make infite white mana by sacrifying LED and putting it back in play with auriok. Once you said that you have 56465342 white manas, go On for 6541654 red mana and puch your opponents with infite spellbombs.No worries with manaburn as you win within the phase(and that manaburn is disappearing in one month,but whatever)
-Lion's eye diamond+Breaktrough+Golgari Grave-Troll+land. This is a turn one free win in a well known and hated legacy deck called ichorid,that allows you to mill youself from 24cards at best.
Putting your land on the board.putting your LED on the board. Playing Breakthrough, sacrifying LED in response without giving priority to the opponent before everything is stacked. your whole hand in discarded and you may dredge on each of the four draw you have to make.
-Lion's eye diamond +infernal tutor; yo... (see all)
Posted By:
Nactra
(6/19/2009 3:06:22 PM)
The oracle text is weird and most people eont understand why. If it was a full unrestricted mana ability it would be practically black lotus
Spells are declared and put on the stack, then the player activates mana abilities to pay for it. You can cast a card from your hand then choose to pay with LED if it was unrestricted.
You would also be able to use it in dredge and activate it while dredging to discard dredgers if you have multiple draws stacked.
The instant priority ruling prevents all those shinanegans.
Remember, you cant pay for Join Forces commander cards with LED. You cant pay for mana leak once you declared to pay; must be poped in response to mana leak if you want to do it.
Posted By:
BattleFish
(3/4/2012 9:54:39 PM)
It's like a Black Lotus had a secret affair with One with Nothing and made madness a dream come true.
Posted By:
DacenOctavio
(12/27/2010 10:31:53 PM)
@ CatsAreCthala & GainsBanding
Mana abilities, unlike other activated and triggered abilities, can be activated at a very strange time: during the casting or resolving of a spell (rule 605.3a).
Lion's Eye Diamond's ability is a mana ability; however, it has that "instant speed" timing restriction. Without the restriction, you could, for example, cast Rampant Growth and then, while the spell is resolving, cast Panglacial Wurm from your library, using the LED mana. The timing restriction prevents you from doing this because you aren't able to cast an instant while a spell is resolving.
Also, without the restriction, you could cast a spell (let's say something broken, like Yawgmoth's Will) by putting it onto the stack and THEN activating the ability of LED. You won't have to discard your spell because it's on the stack and no longer in your hand. (Rule 601.2 may illustrate this further.)
Posted By:
Zher0
(1/21/2010 10:12:27 AM)
Infinite mana with Auriok Salvagers.
Posted By:
mrredhatter
(3/19/2010 10:28:11 PM)